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Small thing I know
Last Post 12 Mar 2014 05:24 AM by Ludwig Harsch. 4 Replies.
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Justin Todd
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10 Mar 2014 07:14 PM
    But why do most, if not all, diagrams of the scrum flow always show the "development, 1 to 4 week build period" section(between sprint planning and review), as an iterative cycle, with the daily scrum, being another iterative cycle which comes off that.

    The only recurring event is the daily sprint so I can understand that being shown iteratively, but the 1 to 4 week build section is a straight timeline.

    Like I said, small thing.

    Ludwig Harsch
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    10 Mar 2014 10:57 PM
    Hi Justin,
    isn't the whole sprint also recurring? If you think of a sprint as a chain of events, starting with planning, recurring daily, and ending with review and retrospective, what happens after the retrospective? Usually the next sprint planning, so this can be thought of as a circle as well.
    Best, Ludwig
    Ian Mitchell
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    11 Mar 2014 03:29 AM
    Also we have the "Agility Path" cycle at the enterprise transformation level. It's the ability to inspect and adapt that makes these events non-linear.
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    12 Mar 2014 03:40 AM

    Posted By Ludwig on 11 Mar 2014 03:57 AM
    Hi Justin,
    isn't the whole sprint also recurring? If you think of a sprint as a chain of events, starting with planning, recurring daily, and ending with review and retrospective, what happens after the retrospective? Usually the next sprint planning, so this can be thought of as a circle as well.
    Best, Ludwig


    Hi Ludwig,

    I agree, but the planning and the retrospective are not included in the iterative section. It is only the section between these which depicted as being iterative.

    These links show what I mean.

    http://blogs.sas.com/hls/uploads/sdlc-scrum.png
    http://thecriticalpath.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/mgs_scrum_wallpaper.png
    http://www.ambysoft.com/artwork/agileLifecycleScrum.jpg
    http://itintellectuals.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/agile-process.png
    http://www.sadhanbiswas.com/myblog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/2010/08/agile-Scrum.jpg

    And just to remind myself, this is a small thing.
    Ludwig Harsch
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    12 Mar 2014 05:24 AM
    OK, now that I have seen picture 3 and 5 I know what you mean. So your question is about the pictures.
    I agree: Drawing the events outside the circle can be misleading.
    Best, Ludwig
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