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PO participation at Daily Scrum?

Last post 04:04 pm April 10, 2014
by Anonymous
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12:09 pm April 7, 2014

Hello,

I found the following question in the Scrum Master Training Manual:

The Scrum Master realizes that Product Owner attends all Daily Scrums and asks Team
Members about their tasks and gives them directions for the following day. What
should the Scrum Master do?

A. It’s wrong, the Product Owner should not attend Daily Scrum

B. It’s wrong, the Product Owner should not speak in Daily Scrum

C. It’s OK, the Product Owner can do this

D. It’s OK, it’s recommended for the Product Owner to give direction

According to the Training Manual the correct Answer is B.

But the Scrum Guide states on page 10:
"The Scrum Master enforces the rule that only Development Team members participate in the Daily Scrum."

So am I right that the right answer is A.?
What do you think?

Best regards,
Frank

12:26 pm April 7, 2014

I am no native english speaker, but I think there is a difference between the words "attend" and "participate", and the PO is allowed to attend the Daily Scrum.
I think the correct answer is E: The Scrum Master should teach the Product Owner about his role and the purpose of the Daily Scrum.
Given the answers above, we can rule out C and D because it is clearly not the PO's role to microcontrol the team.
I think answer B is better than A, because the PO has nothing to say in Daily Scrum if you think about the 3 questions. He will quickly see that he isn't much help in the meeting and stay away from it voluntarily.

12:04 pm April 9, 2014

None of the answers A, B, C, or D are right. The Product Owner might be a member of the Development Team. That's a perfectly viable situation and under such circumstances the PO can of course attend and fully participate in the Daily Scrum. Finding out whether or not that is the case is the first thing the Scrum Master should do.

12:50 pm April 9, 2014

Hi Ian,
I think you mean the same person can be in the role PO and Dev Team member at the same time.
In this case, the person would participate at the daily Scrum in the role Dev Team member, but not in the role PO. So the PO (as role) does not participate.

02:26 pm April 9, 2014

> I think you mean the same person can be in the role PO and Dev Team member at the same time.

That's right

> In this case, the person would participate at the daily Scrum in the role Dev Team member, but
> not in the role PO. So the PO (as role) does not participate.

Regardless of the capacity in which the individual is attending, they shouldn't be giving directions to the other team members, as that would stop the Daily Scrum from being a collaborative activity. That's the core problem which we need to address. However, the *way* we address it should be shaped whether or not the PO is also on the Development Team. As Scrum Masters we can't assume that everyone knows their roles and the capacity in which they should attend Scrum events. If their roles are clarified we can then coach them accordingly.

03:58 pm April 9, 2014

Frank,

> Scrum Master Training Manual:

Can you point me to this manual? (link?)

08:01 am April 10, 2014

Dear Charles,

the question is out of the Scrum Master Training Manual you can download under
http://mgmtplaza.com/downloads/Scrum%20Training%20Manual.pdf

It is question Q24 on page 67 that I am refering.

Regards,
Frank

04:04 pm April 10, 2014

Q24
.
The Scrum Master realizes that Product Owner attends all Daily Scrums
and asks Team Members about their tasks and gives them directions
for the following day. What should the Scrum Master do?

A.It’s wrong,the Product Owner should not attend Daily Scrum
B.It’s wrong,the Product Owner should not speak in Daily Scrum
C.It’s OK,the Product Owner can do this
D.It’s OK, it’s recommended for the Product Owner to give direction

Scrum guide:
The Scrum Master enforces the rule that only Development Team
members participate in the Daily Scrum.

The clue is in the fact the question says "PO attends the daily scrum and gives them directions for the next day",
This would mean the PO is attending as PO, not a member of the dev team, even if they were both roles.
PO cannot participate only dev team if we expand the guide without giving the answer away.