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Is it allowed to change the stories (with the same story points)?
Last Post 03 Oct 2013 10:12 AM by Anton Kalcik. 9 Replies.
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Anton Kalcik
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Anton Kalcik

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05 Sep 2013 04:54 AM
    Is it allowed to change the story with another story (with the same story points) in the running sprint or should the sprint be canceled? I ask because each story should be planned (tasks) and the Planning II is usually at the beginning of the sprint!
    Sowatech
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    Sowatech

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    05 Sep 2013 05:22 AM
    Be warned. Until now we failed to implement scrum so my opinions are purely theoretical. :-)

    I think it depends on how hard you follow the rules. If nobody started the story yet, I think it could be possible (but should be an exceptional case) to make a kind of short planning I+II meeting to switch the story. Of course the PO should not just command to switch. The standard mechanisms should be used. The Problem is, that you disturb the team with this emergency meeting and that could have impacts on the quality of work. If it happens several times and the PO becomes used to it, the team should report it as an impediment to the srum master, so that the PO will get a shot across the bows.

    I think a scrum hardliner would say that it is not possible at all and would contradict the scrum process.

    I think you are wrong about your assumption that all tasks are defined in Planning II. According to my sources most of the tasks are "discovered" during the sprint.
    Anton Kalcik
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    Anton Kalcik

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    05 Sep 2013 05:37 AM
    Yes you are right that most of the tasks are "discovered" during the sprint!
    Ian Mitchell
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    05 Sep 2013 05:45 AM
    > Is it allowed to change the story with another story (with the same story points)
    > in the running sprint or should the sprint be canceled?

    This is a very good question.

    In short, it all seems to depend upon whether you take a "commitment" based view of Scrum, or one based on "forecasts". A strict commitment based view would see any change, even for a story of equivalent points, as being a breach of the Sprint and one that renders the original commitment void. It would be up to the product owner to decide whether or not to actually cancel the sprint.

    A forecast based view (which is now the position taken in the Scrum Guide) allows greater flexibility in this matter. I'd therefore say that it is reasonable and fair to make such an exchange, although the development team would have a duty to explain any impact on the Sprint Goal to the product owner.

    Even so, Sowatech is probably right that "a scrum hardliner would say that it is not possible at all".

    Robert du Toit
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    Robert du Toit

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    05 Sep 2013 06:20 PM
    Why are you wanting or needing to change stories?

    It's preferable not to, because of the extra planning overhead and potential for loss of focus. But we've done it, mostly because of situations where a story became blocked and we knew it would be blocked for too long to complete it in the current sprint.

    It's a negotiation, if the team is ok with it and the PO is ok with the consequences, I don't see why you wouldn't. When I first started with scrum, I would have probably argued it shouldn't be done out of principal though. As Ian says it negates the original commitment, but practically speaking if the team is ok with it then they are making a new commitment. And agile is supposed to be better able to adapt to changing requirements.
    Philipp Eisbacher
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    09 Sep 2013 07:47 AM
    Cancelation of a sprint is done by the PO, when the sprint goal does not make sence any more.... This is most of the time not the case, when a story has to be exchanged.

    Just be aware who owns the sprint backlog :) IF you own it, you can change it but the SM should make clear what's the impact of this behaviour.
    adascalu
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    19 Sep 2013 07:27 AM
    There are some things that need to be defined:

    "change the story" = "As a X I want Y" becomes "As a X I want Z" -> total change of purpose.

    If you talk just about having discovered difficulties or new tasks in addition to what was discussed at planning & task splitting, then no, it's not a change of story. It's simply a bad task split and this discovery may or may not require an adjustment in estimation: aka the story was badly estimated. Normally this isn't grounds for stopping the sprint, only means that a lesser priority story needs to be removed.

    Likewise, if the PO wants to change the purpose of a story, the original story should be removed and the new story (for all intents and purposes it is new) should be added to the Product Backlog and estimated on the next opportunity. By no means should this new story be injected in a new sprint. This is grounds for a sprint stop if the PO deems the business value of the new story to be top notch.
    Charles Bradley
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    Charles Bradley

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    19 Sep 2013 12:44 PM
    I don't think Sprint cancellation is the right thing to do here -- those tend to be very disruptive, rare, and only when the vast majority of the work is no longer relevant -- like when a re-org or company buyout or something really extraordinary like that happens.

    Here is how I tend to coach on scope changes during the sprint:
    http://www.ScrumCrazy.com/scope
    Sanjay Saini
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    30 Sep 2013 05:26 AM

    As everyone said " A Scrum hardliner would say No to it" and I agree to it. However if Dev team is ready to take the new story then it should not be a problem, it should never come from PO

    Also I believe that if anything new has been added/replace it would be at the last priority.

    Cheers
    Sanjay
    Anton Kalcik
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    Anton Kalcik

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    03 Oct 2013 10:12 AM
    Thank you for all your answers and ideas! I can agree with the @Sowatech that "Scrum Hardliner" probably never would allow to change the story, what is from specific point of view understandable. The Sprint is, on my opinion, like agreement between the team and the Product Owner for the specific time. So when I would be the Scrum Master i think i wouldn't allow do this ;-) On other side, I understand that the Sprint cancellation can imply great administration effort. The Scrum is agile methodology and when the story is estimated, the story belongs to the Sprint Goal and the team is agreed with, the story can be, in very exceptional case, exchanged.
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