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The Project Manager (A Misunderstood Product Owner Stance)

November 22, 2019

The Project Manager Product OwnerThe Project Manager is typically concerned with day-to-day progress of the Development Team. They rarely (or never) miss a Daily Scrum, they’re involved during the Daily Scrum and it might just be that they’re asking individual team members what they’ve done, what they’re going to do and if there’s anything blocking them. The Project Manager tends to measure the success of the team in the form of increased Velocity. The Project Manager tends to ‘report’ on Story Points, Burndown Charts and Velocity to the stakeholder during the Sprint Review. And typically, when the Development Team has delivered more Story Points than a previous Sprint, the Project Manager gets really excited!

project manager is a professional in the field of project management. Project managers have the responsibility of the planning, procurement and execution of a project, in any undertaking that has a defined scope, defined start and a defined finish; regardless of industry. Project managers are first point of contact for any issues or discrepancies arising from within the heads of various departments in an organization before the problem escalates to higher authorities.
 — Wikipedia, Oktober 2019 —

The Project Manager is also referred to as the velocity maximizerresource utilization maximizerwishlist administrator, sidekick to management and progress reporter.

The Product Owner as a Project Manager

With the many Product Owners and Product Managers we have trained and coached in their daily practice, we’ve observed the following patterns in Product Owners that we would classify as Project Managers:

  • The Project Manager is used to, well obviously, to “managing projects”… Projects have a clear start and end. Projects are temporary. And projects are executed by a temporary team/organization. A project manager delivers output, which is then delivered to the line organization for further implementation and the actual realization of the expected outcomes. However, being a Product Owner is not a temporary endeavor! Product Owners are in there for the long run (not just for delivering some outputs) and are (or should be) accountable for the Total Cost of Ownership and Profit & Loss of the product.
  • The Project Manager is typically concerned with day-to-day progress of the Development Team. They rarely (or never) miss a Daily Scrum, they’re involved during the Daily Scrum and it might just be that they’re asking individual team members what they’ve done, what they’re going to do and if there’s anything blocking them. Now just to be sure; It is not necessarily bad to know what is going on in/with the Development Team. However, your job as a Product Owner is not to manage the progress the Development Team is making within the Sprint! Your job is to maximize the value delivered by the Development Team, by making sure the (potentially) most valuable (or most risky) work is done first.
  • The Project Manager tends to measure the success of the team in the form of increased Velocity. The Project Manager tends to ‘report’ on Story Points, Burndown Charts and Velocity to the stakeholder during the Sprint Review. And typically, when the Development Team has delivered more Story Points than a previous Sprint, the Project Manager gets really excited! Let's put Velocity into a sports context, let's say Soccer. A soccer team (normally) can’t win a match if they don’t have any ball possession (= no Velocity). However, the purpose of the match is not to have the highest ball possession right? The purpose is to win the match by scoring at least one more goal than the opponent. The same goes for Velocity. It’s not a bad thing to have a high(er) Velocity and be excited when the Development Team gets better and delivers more work (value) in a Sprint. However, the goal is to maximize the value, not to increase the Velocity;
  • The Project Manager is often used to reporting, mostly on (traditional) measures of progress, such as scope, time and budget. But also about deliverables, progress percentages, risks, milestones and deviations from the original plan. Although it is not bad to keep an eye on the budget and on potential risks as a Product Owner, the way to deal with them is quite different;
  • The Project Manager is used to “asking permission/approval” to a Steering Committee and to get projects/assignments with a clear scope, timeline and budget. As a Product Owner, you don’t go to a steering committee. Your don’t go out to get new projects and assignments… You create a product vision and strategy and start maximizing value,. As a Product Owner, you are accountable and responsible for the outcome, on the output that others want or ask for.
  • Other associated behaviors with the Project Manager type of Product Owner are: being a micromanager, managing the metrics, setting deadlines, distributing tasks amongst team-members, managing via spreadsheets, being a people utilizer, reducing effort estimates by the Development Team, maximizing output and being a team coordinator.

The results/effects of acting like a Project Manager

Obviously, not al (Product Owner) Project Managers are the same, and not all the results/effects may be visible in your context. That being said though, what we typically observe when Product Owners act like Project Managers is:

  • Focus on short term results;
  • Little to none focus on long term outcomes (TCO, ROI, P&L, etc);
  • Optimizing for delivering more output/story points/resource utilization is not the same as delivering more value for customers, users and the organization. Sometimes, it’s a freaking awesome idea to have someone ‘not produce anything’ on purpose (because it will bring you much more other value);
  • The Development Team isn’t learning to be self-organizing their own work, they won’t be taking ownership (over planning, results, quality, etc) and controlling everything will cost you a lot more work and time yourself (which you can’t spend on more important things);
  • Reporting progress (such as deliverables, milestones and deviations from the original plan) is not the core of the Product Owner role. Your job is not about creating reports;
  • Being the carrier pigeon leads to less initiative taking, not thinking like an entrepreneur, not thinking as if you’re spending your own money or maybe even stopping all development because there is no more value to gain.

What you can do to move away from this stance

If you are a Product Owner or product manager, and you’re experiencing that you’re being held accountable for delivering projects or output (instead of value and outcome), then here’s what you can do (besides giving us a call of course):

  • Use existing (governance) structures, such as the Steering Committee meetings, to move towards Scrum. For example, what has worked well for us in the past is to (without telling them) start doing the Sprint Review during the Steerco meetings. At first, you do it yourself and instead of using the traditional Steerco agenda, you start showing the product, showing the roadmap, start talking about the vision, start talking about value delivered and feedback. Later, you can slowly start inviting more people (Scrum Master, Development Team, other stakeholders) to the ‘Steerco’ which has actually become the Sprint Review already. In many organizations, it’s easier to change the governance afterwards, when people got used to the new way of working, instead of changing the governance upfront, when the least is known…
  • Start talking about different things with stakeholders. Stop talking about progress percentages, about deliverables and about the expected release dates of new features. Instead, start talking about the goals that you want to achieve. Start talking about the product vision and what you think contributes most to achieving the vision. Take initiative and create your own roadmap for the product, explain why you’ve put goals and features in a certain order. So basically, start taking ownership of the product and create your own plan! If you don’t make your own plan, you will become part of someone else’s plan...
  • Make sure to start talking about stuff like Return on Investment, Customer Satisfaction (e.g. NPS) and Total Cost of Ownership. Move away from the temporary characteristics that projects have, and focus on the long term effects and results. In the end, both you and your stakeholders need to change your mindset and let go of project-approach-thinking.

Want to learn more?

This is a blog from the Stances of the Product Owner series, in which Professional Scrum Product Owner Trainers and Consultants Chris Lukassen and Robbin Schuurman explore preferred and misunderstood stances (attitudes) of Product Owners and (Agile) Product Managers. Read more about the Stances of the Product Owner on this page.

Go experience the Stances of the Product Owner!

If you’re a Product Owner, Product Manager, Scrum Master or Agile Coach with about a year (or more) of experience under your belt, go and explore the Stances of the Product Owner in the Professional Scrum Product Owner-Advanced class. Find a trainer to your liking or in your area, and deepen and expand your Product Management knowledge and skills. And let us know what you think about the training! What did you like? What can be improved? Let’s collaborate to take the profession of Product Ownership to the next level.

If you’d like to experience the all-new Professional Scrum Product Owner-Advanced class, go to Scrum.org to find a class in your area. If you’d like to participate in one of our classes, check out our Xebia Academy page for more information or inquire for an in-house class via training@xebia.com.


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Florian I.
12:07 pm January 5, 2023

I think this sentence contains an error that alters its meaning significantly: "As a Product Owner, you are accountable and responsible for the outcome, on the output that others want or ask for." should probably read "... responsible for the outcome, NOT the output that others want or ask for."


PMO Global Institute
09:58 am June 18, 2023

Hey fellow SEO enthusiasts!

I wanted to share my experience and shed some light on a misunderstood stance within the realm of product ownership. As a project manager working closely with product owners, I've come to appreciate the unique perspective and value we bring to the table.

While the role of a product owner is widely acknowledged and rightly celebrated, the project manager's role often goes unnoticed or is misunderstood. We're often seen as mere facilitators, but there's so much more to it!

In my experience, being a project manager allows me to bridge the gap between the product vision and the technical execution. We are the glue that holds the team together, ensuring smooth coordination and communication among all stakeholders.

As a project manager, I embrace the responsibility of managing timelines, resources, and risks. We work closely with the development team, ensuring that the product roadmap aligns with the project's goals and objectives. Our focus on the overall project success goes hand in hand with the product owner's vision.

Moreover, we play a crucial role in identifying potential roadblocks and proactively finding solutions. By closely monitoring progress, we can quickly adapt to changes, mitigate risks, and keep the project on track. This level of attention and detail helps maintain efficiency and ensures that deadlines are met.

I believe that the synergy between product owners and project managers is essential for successful product development. While the product owner brings the vision, the project manager brings structure, organization, and coordination. It's a partnership that empowers the team to deliver exceptional results.

So, let's celebrate the often overlooked project manager role and recognize its significance in driving successful SEO projects. Together, we can unlock the true potential of our products and create a positive impact for our clients.

I'm eager to hear your thoughts and experiences. How do you perceive the role of a project manager in your SEO endeavors? Let's discuss!

Cheers,
[PMO Global Institute]
Website: https://pmoglobalinstitute....


PMO Global Institute
06:58 am June 27, 2023

Hey fellow project management enthusiasts!

Today, I want to shed light on an interesting topic: the misunderstood stance of a project manager as a product owner. In many organizations, there can be confusion or overlap between the roles and responsibilities of a project manager and a product owner. Let's delve into this issue and clarify the distinct aspects of each role.

Focus and Scope: A project manager is primarily concerned with the successful completion of a project. They ensure that it is delivered within the defined constraints of time, budget, and quality. On the other hand, a product owner focuses on the strategic vision of the product, its features, and customer value.

Stakeholder Management: Project managers engage with various stakeholders, including team members, sponsors, and external partners. Their aim is to ensure effective communication, manage expectations, and drive collaboration. Conversely, a product owner primarily interacts with stakeholders to gather requirements, prioritize features, and align the product roadmap with business goals.

Decision-Making Authority: Project managers have decision-making authority related to project execution, resource allocation, and risk management. They make decisions to keep the project on track and mitigate potential issues. In contrast, product owners hold decision-making authority regarding the product's functionality, user experience, and feature prioritization to maximize its value.

Long-Term vs. Short-Term Focus: Project managers are typically responsible for the successful completion of a specific project within a defined timeline. Their focus is on delivering the project's objectives. In contrast, product owners take a more long-term approach, continuously evaluating and evolving the product to meet changing customer needs and market demands.

Collaboration with Development Teams: Project managers work closely with development teams, ensuring that tasks are completed on time, managing dependencies, and monitoring progress. Conversely, product owners collaborate with development teams to provide guidance on product requirements, refine user stories, and ensure that the product aligns with the customer's vision.

It's crucial to understand and appreciate the unique contributions of both project managers and product owners. While there may be some overlap in their responsibilities, each role serves distinct purposes in ensuring project success and delivering customer value.

By clarifying these distinctions, we can foster better collaboration, improve communication, and optimize the effectiveness of both project management and product ownership functions within our organizations.

I would love to hear your thoughts and experiences on this topic. Have you encountered any challenges or misconceptions regarding the roles of project managers and product owners?

Cheers,

[PMO Global Institute]
Website visit more: https://pmoglobalinstitute....


Pmaspire
10:49 am July 11, 2023

Hello fellow forum members,

I wanted to take a moment to discuss an interesting topic that often generates confusion and misconceptions in the field of project management—the role of the Project Manager in relation to the Product Owner.

In Agile methodologies, the Product Owner is responsible for defining and prioritizing the product backlog, representing the stakeholders, and ensuring the team delivers value to the customer. On the other hand, the Project Manager is often seen as a more traditional role, focused on planning, budgeting, and overseeing the execution of projects.

However, it is crucial to understand that the Project Manager and the Product Owner are not mutually exclusive roles, but rather, they can coexist and complement each other effectively.

While the Product Owner primarily focuses on defining the product vision, gathering requirements, and guiding the development team, the Project Manager can bring valuable skills and perspectives to the table. The Project Manager can help with managing timelines, coordinating resources, mitigating risks, and ensuring the project stays on track.

By embracing the Project Manager as a valuable member of the Agile team, we can leverage their expertise in project planning, stakeholder management, and coordination to enhance the overall success of the project. This collaboration can lead to better alignment between project objectives, customer needs, and business goals.

It's essential to foster open communication and collaboration between the Product Owner and the Project Manager to avoid misunderstandings and promote a shared understanding of project goals. Both roles can work hand in hand to ensure a smooth project delivery while staying focused on meeting customer expectations and delivering value.

In conclusion, rather than seeing the Project Manager as a hindrance to Agile practices, we should recognize their potential to complement the Product Owner role. By embracing the strengths of both roles and fostering collaboration, we can achieve a more holistic and effective approach to project management.

I would love to hear your thoughts and experiences on this topic. Have you encountered challenges or success stories when integrating the roles of Project Manager and Product Owner? Let's have a constructive discussion and learn from each other's insights.

Looking forward to your contributions.

Best regards,
[Pmaspire]
Website visit more: https://pmaspire.com/